00:07:06 Colleen Fisk: Colleen Fisk, Dena’ina lands in Alaska 00:07:08 Phyllis Blumberg: Phyllis SE PA 00:07:08 Joel Jevotovsky: Hi, Joel from West Palm Beach 00:07:10 KEN KELLER: Ken Keller, Springfield, Virginia 00:07:10 Ruth Brown: Mark, Littleton, CO 00:07:17 Jacqueline McClinton: Jacqueline from Houston Texas! 00:07:21 Alan Collins: Morgantown, WV 00:07:26 Julia Nakhleh: Julia from Collegeville, PA 00:07:29 Jill and Walt Auburn: Jill and Walt Auburn, Richmond, va - with our solar panels and Nissan Leaf 00:07:49 Mike Foley: Mike Foley, Cuyahoga County ohio 00:07:49 Mark Smith: mark from Philadelphia 00:08:01 Dan Robinson: Dan Robinson, calling in from the College of Menominee Nation, on the Menominee Reservation, located within the state of Wisconsin 00:08:30 Rita Campbell: Washington DC via Boston MA w/Tesla and solar shingle w/ power wall interest 00:09:11 Michael Cohen: Michael Cohen with solar in Orlando FL 00:09:44 Taylor Mills: Hello from Ripley, WV 00:09:56 Charlie Behrens (he/him): Charlie Behrens - solar & EV from Orlando FL 00:10:38 Larry Wexler: Larry Wexler, President of the Central Florida EV Assn and drive an actual Solarcycle and just finished an ultralight etrike 00:11:01 Larry Howe: Larry Howe - solar & EV, Plano, Tx 00:12:05 Alexis Miller, SUN (she/her): Welcome everyone! We are excited to have you here today! 00:12:23 Alexis Miller, SUN (she/her): Learn more about Solar United Neighbors at: https://www.solarunitedneighbors.org/ 00:12:34 Charlie Behrens (he/him): No just any "large power outage" in Japan. It was due to a nuclear meltdown. 00:12:36 Alexis Miller, SUN (she/her): Article Maureen is talking about here: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1127590_nissan-leaf-as-home-energy-device-wallbox-will-soon-enable-it-in-the-u-s 00:13:13 Alexis Miller, SUN (she/her): Article Colleen is talking about here: https://www.powermag.com/is-vehicle-to-grid-technology-the-key-to-accelerating-the-clean-energy-revolution/ 00:14:30 John Ervin: John Ervin, Orlando, FL Solar and EV.. 00:16:46 Charlie Garlow: Can I use my solar panels during an outage to charge my EV? Quasar helps with that? 00:18:50 Steve Skolnik: I have done this as well, powering fridge and lighting, internet router from my 2004 Prius. Max is 1000 watts. 00:19:00 Charlie Garlow: My solar has inverters so it delivers AC. Normally the power company does not allow solar to work during an outage. How do I bypass that? 00:19:19 Mryia Williams: When our solar was being installed we set up a similar system to Charlie with an inverter and our Leaf so that we could keep the home network, lighting, and such running. 00:19:29 Phyllis Blumberg: When there is a power outrage, my home power goes out even if my solar panels are generating as I am connected to the grid. Could I use my Leaf to power my house? 00:19:44 Steve Skolnik: Charlie, you cannot run the solar inverter during a power failure. It would be VERY dangerous to backfeed the utility transformer with your solar array. 00:20:03 Jill and Walt Auburn: If we use the Leaf as a backup for if we lose house power (with Wallcharger) does It void the Nissan car warranty? 00:21:09 Mryia Williams: @Phyllis - it depends how your home solar installation is set up. We have a hub allows us to disconnect from the grid so our solar and battery backup work when the power is out. 00:21:54 Mryia Williams: @Jill and Walt - Nissan built bi-directional into the vehicle from the start so no, it will not effect the warranty. 00:24:19 Charlie Behrens (he/him): @Mohammad Karim, please post a link to where to purchase the adapter 00:24:53 Phyllis Blumberg: How do I find how to use bidirectional on my Leaf? 00:25:35 Albert Barber: My understanding is that the Leaf and Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV are the only two vehicles set up for bi-directional charging 00:28:09 Alexis Miller, SUN (she/her): If folks have additional questions about EVs and Solar, you can reach out to our SUN Go Solar team: helpdesk@solarunitedneighbors.org 00:28:40 Albert Barber: Here is a link to one example of a bi-directional charger https://atlanticces.com/delta-v2hv2g-bidirectional-charger/ 00:28:53 Bob Wilkins: Bob Wilkins in West Virginia. today is just for learning about EV. Very interesting. I do have a solar panel house. 00:28:55 Michael Cohen: Airports generally have a lot of cars parked for a week or longer. Could utilities use electric cars as batteries to shave peak demand? Note I live in Orlando with 40+ million travelers per non pandemic year. 00:28:59 Charlie Garlow: Steve Skolnik Yes, I agree that it is a safety concern to feedback to the grid during an outage. I don’t want to feed the grid during an outage. I want to charge my EV. How to do that, safely? 00:29:06 Mryia Williams: There is a small test being implemented here in the US by Fermata for V2X. 00:30:08 Larry Wexler: Please save & send us this chat 00:31:31 Colleen Fisk, REAP (she/her): I’m hoping Alexis can send - but you can also save the chat using the three dots in the top right of the chat writing window 00:31:58 Michael Schenk: I think vehicle-to-grid is totally impractical, due to issues of scale. It would take many thousands of vehicles to impact the demand of the grid. Let’s focus on the practical vehicle-to-house setups. 00:32:01 Rita Campbell: just learned that Harvard has just designed battery upgrade from Lithium Ion to Lithium Metal that is lighter weight than current options and affords at the very least 10k cycles of charging potential; see article in NATURE magazine via greenrita@live.com 00:32:03 Alexis Miller, SUN (she/her): Yes, we can send the chat out with the follow up email tomorrow! 00:32:48 pat bahn: the Nissan V2G box is standard retail in Japan but not UL listed for the US 00:33:23 pat bahn: https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/ZEROEMISSION/APPROACH/COMPREHENSIVE/ECOSYSTEM/ 00:34:20 pat bahn: https://wallbox.com/en_us/quasar-dc-charger quasar has bi-directional but 00:34:31 pat bahn: it’s not “Certified” for the US yet 00:36:22 pat bahn: the new Hyundai Ioniq 5 has V2L capability 00:36:30 pat bahn: that is for sale. 00:36:44 Mryia Williams: The Kia EV6 will also be V2L 00:38:12 Mryia Williams: And VW says that future EVs will be bidirectional (though now all the wall units are CHAdeMO compatible only so we will have to wait for CCS Combo units for those newer EVs to work). 00:39:03 Michael Schenk: I have 2 110v outlets in my phew. I will use them to directly power sump pump and some lights, rather than run the whole house. But I would like to learn how to run the house on supplemental power, as the speaker is saying. 00:40:08 Kyle Levesque: great point. Standardization is super important for us to help this process 00:40:09 Mryia Williams: SolarEdge has a hub that works to isolate your home automatically in the case of an outage. Works great with solar and has a spot available to either hook up a generator or you could use a bidirectional unit to attach your EV. 00:41:03 Colleen Fisk, REAP (she/her): Interesting Mryia, do you have a link? 00:43:06 Kyle Levesque: outback also has automatic transfer switches. And enphase has there own proprietary system for this too. 00:44:11 Mryia Williams: I think this is a link: https://www.solaredge.com/us/the-solaredge-energy-hub-solution 00:45:58 Maureen Wise: Maria, I’m also in Ohio. We understood that this wasn’t allowed in our state? 00:47:22 Kyle Levesque: https://www.altenergymag.com/article/2013/08/adding-the-battery-back-up-power-option-to-existing-grid-tied-pvsolar-systems-/1281/ 00:48:12 Kyle Levesque: the article can help understand how grid tie, vs island works during backup situations. 00:48:22 Colleen Fisk, REAP (she/her): Thank you Kyle! 00:51:20 Charlie Behrens (he/him): Here's another bidirectional charger, but this one is designed to be directly connected to a solar system 00:51:43 Charlie Behrens (he/him): https://www.dcbel.energy/our-products/ 00:51:58 Paula Paschall: How many bi-directional EV's are out now or within the next year? 00:52:21 Michael Schenk: We need neighborhood centers for cooling&heating and powering medical equipment for poor neighborhoods. This happened in Puerto Rico after Maria. 00:52:33 Colleen Fisk, REAP (she/her): I like that idea Michael! 00:53:13 Colleen Fisk, REAP (she/her): @Paula: just 2 EVs currently that have built-in bidirectional. Not sure about upcoming 00:53:49 Paula Paschall: Thanks 00:54:28 pat bahn: FWIW, once you have a solar array and if the gid goes down, if you pop the main breakers, it’s not too hard to set up a mini generator to boot the solar array during the day. I know Floridians will run their whole house with tiny little honda generators, just big enough to boot the array 10-4. 00:55:12 Mryia Williams: Current US EVs with bidirectional - Nissan Leaf Soon to market EVs with V2L - Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 Soon to market EVs with V2X - VW future evs that will be on their next skateboard/platform 00:55:33 Larry Wexler: Benefits also require utiity input. This concept only needs a buiding efficiency project where many EVs park at a building all day to take hold. 00:56:15 Charlie Behrens (he/him): Great idea Charlie Garlow! Group purchasing power! 00:57:21 David Lewis: https://www.blocpower.io/ has started working in New York City to help low income neighborhoods and older buildings become more efficient and add alternative forms of energy through group funding. 00:57:29 Paula Paschall: Totally agree! 00:57:32 gene hunter: will ev charging to keep it topped off decrease battery life ? 00:57:56 Michael Schenk: Big factor in solar to ev: what if you need to drive somewhere? 00:58:17 Phyllis Blumberg: Ev only saves GHG emissions is the source of the power for the EV comes from a clean, renewable source, that is why EV and Solar are a great combo. 00:58:43 Mohammad Karim: I have experience in both Solar and EV, as well as Fuel Cell EV. 00:58:53 Colleen Fisk, REAP (she/her): @Phyllis - research shows that even if it comes from non-renewables, it still reduces GHG emissions, though certainly not as much so I totally agree solar and EV are a great combo 00:59:35 Paula Paschall: Theoretically yes. However, I often drive my Bolt over 200 miles at a time. I have over 100,000 miles on it and my battery hasn't seemed to take a hit as of yet 00:59:52 Mryia Williams: @Michael - If I need to drive somewhere, my home battery backup keeps our home running or we could leave the Leaf home if we were using it and take the Niro EV (we only have electrics in our garage). 00:59:53 John Ervin: Are all Cars with CCS Combo "capable" of bidirectional? 01:00:15 Mryia Williams: No. No currently on market EVs with CCS Combo are bidirectional. 01:00:34 Charlie Behrens (he/him): CCS Combo is theoretically bidirectional, but there are no products available for that yet. 01:01:09 Mryia Williams: We will start seeing bidirectional capable CS Combo EVs on sale by the end of the year. 01:01:26 John Ervin: I mean is it technically possible to do bidirectional with CCS Combo, not if it's been implemented in the US yet. 01:01:49 John Ervin: The Bolt EV in my case 01:02:51 pat bahn: The real limits on bidirectional is getting things UL certified and getting software written and the Utility companies 01:03:12 pat bahn: The problems are not technical, they are administrative, political and inertial 01:03:15 John Ervin: It's another way of asking do I need to buy a new car in the future to use bi-directional or will my 2018Bolt EV be capable with future chargers 01:03:25 Mryia Williams: Wallbox says the CCS version is coming for their unit. 01:03:35 pat bahn: John, the real limit on bidirectional is the wall box technically. 01:04:18 David Lewis: From what I have read it is EV manufacturers who are preventing it because of warranties on the batteries. 01:04:33 Mryia Williams: You would need a EV that is bidirectional capable so currently on market EVs that do not have that built in will not work. 01:04:35 Colleen Fisk, REAP (she/her): June 24th will be the next articles club! 01:04:41 Tanya Johnson: Thank you everyone! 01:04:53 Joel Jevotovsky: Thank you! 01:04:55 Alexis Miller, SUN (she/her): Thank you everyone for joining! 01:05:00 Ferg Ferg: Thanks